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#31

Brad99

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can this record phone calls both ways without the speaker turned on ?


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@Brad99: AFAIK no.


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#33

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hi Arne, Good Review! But take a look at a user who posted his reviews on comments iN GSMARENA. Can you please see if it's true? By the way, does the phone hang at all???

Omnia Woes (4th weeks in):…Can't deny the Omnia's specs is best of the lot, but in real-world useability for power users/apps users - it's No, No, No..

1. To text while out for lunch, catching the sun, or afternoon driving, relocate yourself into a building, and start. At night on bed, dSpoil your loved one, not your Eyes.
~ Screen is not readable in daylight, at full setting. Backlight is too bright at night at zero setting.

2. To work faster, you shouldn't ... Take Life easy, De-stress, Train your patience, Work is not Everything...which is what Bill Gates is doing now with himself and propagating the idea in Windows Mobile.
~ Windows Mobile is never Finger or UI-Friendly. All samsung apps/UI/keyboard input not efficient enough, compared to third parties' & freewares. DivX player/Touch player cannot play 50% of video files (unsupported format!!!). I have better solutions with other apps. No way to remove included built-in apps, plug-ins and ROM-programs.

3. To try new apps/interface/games, be prepared to hard-reset/format phone & data. ~ ~ Not suitable for Power Users and Apps Explorers, its sensor, GPS, bluetooth,even backlight nd background services, are not compatible/ proprietary/ conflicts in some ways with common 3rd party programs. Worse than a Vista-XP compatibility problems. (Most s/w written for HTC series)., Anything thrown at Diamond & Touch works fine..

4. With a Apps-loaded phone, be very embarassed, to be seen whacking your phone like a GameBoy, or asking your friends to wait for a Reboot..and that ugly green splash screen again!.
~ The touch loses its sensitivity. It hangs/locks up the phone very frequently, every 1 hour when it goes to sleep mode, and never wakes up. Sometimes power off by itself. The ROM programs seems to take precedence. Cleaning its registry doesn't help.I'm seen forcing my fingers' corners, hammering my stylus on the screen, pressing the buttons with hands (to unlock/wake), more often than talking on the phone. How uncool...or issit so lame!

5. Driving to a new 'ulu' address? Flip your Street Directory or use Google Maps on phone to study the turns at the destination before starting. Turn on your GPS & Navigaition s/w, and the only thing you hear is 'You have reached your destination' when you arrive.
~ GPS takes abt 10 minutes to have GPS fix
(I reach my destination by then), Don't use it anymore. I uninstalled my NAvfone.

Only thing you can do with GPS, is turn on your GPS, leave it with your friend, buy yourselves drinks, waiting at the bar counter, excuse yourself to the toilet, and when you return tell your friend, 'Hey, see.. we are at E107'N2.1'...big deal yah?

6. Travelling/Driving abroad...Buy/Rent an Encylopedic Map, or a dedicated GPS.
~ Agis, the navfone s/w provider, is Singapore-based, only has Singapore/Malaysia maps, not compatible with maps from Mapking and Tomtom (Do locals need navigation? Isn't navigation more important for tourists in foreign land?). Cheap license fee.

7. Boasting the Auto-rotate,..you will, all the time.
~ It is too sensitive, even at zero setting, irritatingly self-rotate, and refuse to rotate back when jerking it, ended up switching off. The iPhone demo of auto-rotate & finger zooming really caught everyone. Has anyone realised it is not practical. Do you always appreciate a picture, (btw way usually a long string of pics) zooming in and out? Unless you r checking out panties. You could just rotate with a flip on most viewers, or keep your pictures in unrotated format to fill screen all times.. sadly still no viewer s/w that can Autodetect rotated picture, auto-rotate them to fill screen.

8. Shooting Porn, Timelapse effect, or Ghost Movies?..Excellent phone, auto-mosaic censorship, auto-bluring, Free ghosts.. leaves that mysterious teasing feel.
~ Video: UI's good, pause/zoom while recording is thoughtful, but video is ghostly and blurred, at 10fps, fixed focus and digital zoom is in 3-5 jerky steps. forget taking moving objects/people, walk to zoom.

9. To watch phonevideos on TV, pivot yr head horizontally, or rotate your TV vertically
~ TV-Out: Only for viewing stills photos. Full-screen movies, video rotates on TV, but does not fill screen, nor fit horizontally, fit its width with height of TV, 90% orientation, 30% TV space. To watch video/movies, sit 3 ft(90cm) from TV, with head on pillow, rested sideways, or rotate head 90 degrees.

10. Upgrade the Firmware (if you ever know there is an update); Go queue u at the service centers. No promises things will improve. ...You can't do it on Samsung Website (global/local), becasue...????.
On the second day, after loading and apps-stressing it first night, I send the phone for unlocking and queries on its stability. Service Centre told me they will do a firmware upgrade, which is not available online, not announced, and that Samsung's policies never made such updates, self managed by end-users. Then which was 1 week after official launch in Singapore/1st in the World. Was that a need for such a urried launch?
By the way, it was to improve its screen sensitivity. About the un-updated i900s out there?...'They are voluntarily invited to visit service centre' was the answer. After the upgrade, I didn't feel things have improved in any way.

For simple user, who sticks to default UI, and its supplied s/w, not realising that things can be done much faster and intelligently, or wondering how to use your 16GB storage, do what the coffeeeshop Ah Peks, (who carries a N95, and don;t know how to reply to SMS) says,: Live Life Simple, Be Simple-Minded. The phone's fine and great, Then again, you wouldn't need such specs, other than to flaunt it (but sadly only to WM users). The others still wonder while you are squirting your eyes, have to stop walking and nimble with those fat fingers on a mini unknown device.

For Flaunters, go for the iPhone 3G.

For Apps Explorer, enjoy your HTCs, Diamond or Touch, (problem-free with any 3rd arties/freewares/torrents).

For Typists/Callers/SMSers, stick to your qwerty TyncII, Imate or new E-series.

For Video Buffs, hang on to your N95.( still not great though, jazzy edges on zoom-in clips)

For Already Owners, dun stinch, go with a data plan to fully exploit its power/space on Youtube and other tubes, Internet, Torrent, VOIP, with the right apps, that do not hang up the device. Enjoy the still flash AF camera, radio with quality recording.

For All-of-the-Above, wait to see what EXperia re-specs can do?

For Me, I'll wait. Meanwhile it is my expensive hot-key torchlight, and a private 16:9 longish screen for movies on bed without having the TV disturb my partner. Initially thought, who will watch a movie on such small screen. (though still as narrow as 2.8" screens, even for smart-fit browsing).

Or maybe I'll wait till, Samsung, Sony, Apple, if they still exists, incorporates one with built in DVB-T TVMobile tuner, FM Transmitter, E-wallet, Laser Pointer, Replacement Mouse, Mini-LCD projector, and also serves as a security 15,000 volts Zappper, Siren Alarm, Wii-remote, Bluetooth remote control, Face/FingerPrint Recogniser, Pill dispenser, Emotion Sensor, personal massager, electric shaver, and emergency shower head.


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#34

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Jack, I have to say that poster either has a duff phone or is just talking bollocks. Some of his comments about WM not being finger-friendly are not only applicable to the Omnia so that is not a valid issue. Its definitely not the best in sunlight but I have no problem using it outdoors, I use the automatic backlight function so that may be helping.

As for the other issues (hangs, software compatibility, GPS) I dont know if this is his first WM phone but its not incievable that some software will be incompatible and cause issues but I find it hard to believe that he is unable to run the phone fully loaded with apps. I have MS Voice Command (notorious memory hog), SPB Pocket Plus, Live Search, SK Tools, SPB Screenshot, Weather Watcher and WM RDP and have no such problems as he described. For GPS I havent installed a full routing program yet but have no problems getting a fix with Google Maps, Live Search or Nokia's old smart2go software.

There are lots of Omnia owners who dont have this guys problem so draw your own conclusions. No device is perfect and there will always be the one device that has issues. Do a search on other forums and see what users of the phone think.


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#35

Scott Harbert

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Arne,

Thanks for a very good review of the Samsung i900 Omnia phone.  At the end of your review you said something about getting 3rd party keyboard.  Can I assume that means the i900 supports 3rd party software like all other Microsoft WM Operating Systems? I would like to run a bluetooth keyboard and mouse from Think Outside with the device.  I also would like run other 3rd party software, too.

Thanks for getting back to me,
Scott


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#36

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@Jack: I'm sorry but I'm not going to comment every bullet point you've listed. As theefman said, either the guy's device has a serious problem or he never used a Windows Mobile device/smartphne before or he just want to bash the device; I don't know. You have read my review and my impressions of the device and I'm quite happy. Just as an example to one of his issues: I was out of office yesterday and wanted to use my Omnia for navigation at a foreign city. Beofre, I did a hard reset because I screwed up the device with some test software, but the hard reset and new synchronization of all data made it working proper again. However, I forgot to (auto) download the (a)GPS data/forgot to turn on the auto download functionality and indeed, the device took forever to get a satellite fix which is, nevertheless, still typical for GPS. So I downloaded the GPS information manually and iGo found the location within 1 minute after I've downloaded the information. You see, there might be some reasons why the Omnia didn't make it working for the guy but there are solutions.

@Scott Harbert: Yes, sure you can install 3rd party applications on the device. Even if the GUI is somewhat changed/enhanced, it's still a Windows Mobile Professional device which gives you the full freedom to install programs you like/need.
As for the keyboard: I was talking about SIP (soft input panel) keyboards, not about external hardware keyboards and I haven't tested a Bluetooth keyboard yet since my good old trustworthy Think Outside Bluetooth keyboard "died" some time ago. :-(


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#37

matf0304

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Registered: 03.08.2008
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I lik the phone. I am living in Singapore and it is released in June. I bough the product last month. Excellent.. it is the only word I can say. Before I use NOKIA and dislike Samsung because of its battery. But this time, haa, I am very pleased. The only problem to me is the chinese. I want to have chinese interface but in fact there is no.

BTW, if anyone wants me to buy the phone in Singapore, i am willing to help. just email me jerry.wang05@gmail.com or SMS me +6593251860. I can go to samsung shop for you.

#38

audzhai1904

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Registered: 04.08.2008
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Hi! I just bought my Samsung i900 and the only thing is that I have t-mobile and I have internet service but the internet doesn't work. I live in the US. Is there someone who can help me because I have already been on the phone with T-mobile and they have sent me to 3 different departments and put me on hold for a long period of time and I just want to use my internet. Can someone help please!!!??? thank you!

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#39

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@audzhai1904: Go to "Main Menu" -> tap "Settings" -> tap on the "Connections" tab -> tap "Connections".
Tap "Add a new modem connection" under "My Internet".

Select am modem: Cellular Line (GPRS)
Access point name: internet2.voicestream.com
User name: voicestream (or blank, not sure)
Password: Blank

That's it.


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#40

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Which firmware/rom version did the review unit have?

Some users at telefon-treff.de reported that Shozu is missing and that they cannot touch-scroll in the regular WM-menues as shown in your video.
The version of their firmware/rom is: i900XGHG5/BHHG6

Thank you in advance!


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It's "i900XXHG7/XFHG7 (PDA) and i900XXHG7 (Phone)". See this thread for further discussions.
Not sure about the "tap and scroll" issue but makes me wonder that ShoZu isn't on the device since Samsung and ShoZu are partners and Samsung now adding it on many devices by default. Where does these Omnias come from? Are they open market or carrier "branded" devices?


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Both are open market devices. AFAIK: One is from fonmarkt.de and the other one is from handytick.de.

Mine is from talkthisway.de and should arrive tomorrow.


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#43

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i lost my password and cant open the phone any more , how to reset it?


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#44

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Hey come on guys surely someone must have tested whether the phone can record phone calls

can this record phone calls both ways without the speaker turned on ?


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#45

Ron

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Hello,

I am considering buying the omnia but two issues bother me
1) I heard it doesn't have a voice dial option which is kind of basic for such a phone (maybe there is a 3rd party solution)
2) I heard it doesn't work with IGO software

Can anyone testify if these problems really exist with the omnia?


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