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FIRST HAND: Bluetooth experiences with the HTC Voyager aka Orange SPV E200
Posted by Arne Hess - on Friday, 07.11.03 - 14:20:31 CET under 09 - Thoughts - Viewed 8863x
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Half of the week I was testing the HTC Voyager now and here is my first experience I've collected with the Bluetooth capabilities.

Most important for me were the tests how it collaborates with my Bluetooth enabled Pocket PC (HP iPAQ H5400 with Windows Mobile 2003), with my Notebook using a Anycom Bluetooth PC card and my Jabra Bluetooth headset.

It's important to know that the current ROM on the PPCW.Net i-Mate Smartphone2 isn't the final i-Mate ROM but a HTC/Microsoft development edition. So everything I'm writing about here might change/improves for the final shipping ROM!

Pocket PC
Bonding both devices wasn't a real problem. Just switch on the Smartphone the Bluetooth status to "Discoverable" and enter the search mode on the Pocket PC.
The iPAQ found the Voyager just with the first try and I was able to bond both.

However, there is no way to dial from the Pocket PC to establish a GPRS connection, doesn't matter which way I've tried. This is something really weird because I'm able to establish a GPRS connection via Bluetooth using my Notebook (see below). I got this problem also confirmed by other Voyager users who tried a GPRS connection with different Pocket PCs.

Also it seems the Voyager doesn't supports (today) the file exchange profile. Neither I'm able to send/receive a vCard nor I can send/receive files.

Headset
Next I've tried was pairing my Jabra FreeSpeak Bluetooth headset with the Voyager and I ran into a dead end pretty soon because the Voyager supports the Bluetooth discoverable mode only but can't discover other Bluetooth devices.
Even if it seems to support Bluetooth headsets:

I wasn't able to bond the Voyager with the headset because of both devices supports "discoverable" only and requires to be discovered actively by a Bluetooth device.

Notebook
After these disappointing experiences I continued with the Notebook setups and these experiences was a much better.

For the tests I've used both - my actual Sony Notebook with Windows XP and my old Sharp Notebook with Windows 98. As the Bluetooth card I used the Anycom Bluetooth PC card with the latest drivers.

Bonding both - the Notebooks with the Smartphone worked like charm too and I've continued to setup a dial-up connection (the latest Anycom driver includes a pretty good GPRS wizard so I wasn't forced to enter the APN connection string by hand). Again I switched Bluetooth on and simply pressed connect on the Notebook. Within seconds the Smartphone dialed and connected to the O2 GPRS network!
When I was trying services like HTTP, SMTP/POP3 and Ping all of them worked.

After that I've continued with trying an ActiveSync connection between the Smartphone and the Anycom card.
The Voyager ActiveSync wizard includes the "Connect via Bluetooth" option and without creating an ActiveSync connection before through the USB cable it worked - out of the Box. I only had to select the Bluetooth port in ActiveSync on the Notebook before.

There I was able so sync as well as to access the file system of the Voyager to copy files from the Notebook to the device.

Another thought I got, when I was connected to ActiveSync was if PassTrough would work to surf the net from the couch without connecting to GPRS and yes - it worked! :-D

160 kbps isn't that bad for a mobile phone! :-D

Final Conclusion

I have mixed emotions about the Bluetooth capabilities of the HTC Voyager. As much it seems it will become a great Bluetooth enabled cell phone in the future/final release today it's not ready at all. The passive discovery mode bars the possibilities to connect other passive Bluetooth accessories like headsets or GPS receivers and that's one of the strengths of a Smartphone - to be connected with accessories. Also I don't understand why I can establish a GPRS connection from a Notebook easily but I have no chance to dial from my Pocket PC. All these facts really makes me wonder because I thought HTC use the same underlying Bluetooth stacks for the HTC Himalaya (PPCW.Net i-Mate Phone Edition) and the Voyager but it seems it isn't implemented today. Maybe another reason why the release date of the Orange SPV E200 is already delayed. But anyway - I'm sure HTC get it fixed soon and if these disappointments are fixed, the Voyager will be a great Bluetooth enabled smart phone!

Cheers ~ Arne


 

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Comments
Posted by Pinnacle on 07.11.03 - 16:11:49

No connection between your headset and the phone?!  Big-time disappointment...hope these connection problems are fixed in the final ROM.

I was hoping to upgrade to this phone from a P800, but I don't know now.

Posted by Paul O-Brien on 07.11.03 - 16:48:43

You CAN discover other devices (I got an e200 today too!)

Start -> Settings -> Bluetooth -> Bonded Devices -> New

Works for me big_smile

P

Posted by Arne Hess on 07.11.03 - 17:22:08

Hell - Paul, u are right! That's what I was looking for but haven't found since my Voyager came without docu.

Now I'm in the car on the way home  and no way to test until Monday.

Thanks for the tip!!!

Posted by Paul O-Brien on 07.11.03 - 17:54:35

No worries big_smile

I haven't actually tested a headset yet, but it works fine with my iPaq.

P

Posted by Jeff on 07.11.03 - 19:23:31

it works with a headset...i've tried a Sony HBH-65 and it works.

Posted by Pinnacle on 07.11.03 - 20:50:48

OK, feeling much better wink

Paul, so you've dialed up GPRS with your iPaq with the phone?  Was the process fairly painless? 

Also, does this phone support voice commands...and via bluetooth headset?

Posted by Sven Rutten on 07.11.03 - 20:51:57

Marco from http://www.pocketpc.ch could connect a pocketpc to browse over bluetooth with GPRS easely  without any problems...

Posted by Arne Hess on 07.11.03 - 21:00:05

@Paul: Have you just bonded the Voyager and your Pocket PC or can you also dial GPRS?

@Sven Rutten: Yes, I know - I've read it too and that's why I wrote in the begining of the thought that it's far away from a final version (the ROM). However, what makes me wonder is that 3 people (including me) wasn't able to connect to GPRS from a PPC and Marco (and maybe Paul) was able. Pretty weird... :-?

Posted by Sven Rutten on 07.11.03 - 21:30:53

And how is your feeling about the Voyager?

Do you like it, are the improvement really so good?

Posted by Steve on 07.11.03 - 21:34:48

Hi all .... assume you are all talking about the SPV e200! Any input regarding network and/or program locks. I am thinking of getting one in UK/HK soon and want to use my AT&T Wireless SIM in the US - any comments?

Cheers ~ Steve

Posted by Mauricio Freitas on 07.11.03 - 22:34:59

Arne, good stuff... About the GPRS @ 160kbps - that's probably because the network is using a clientless compression transparent proxy (what a bunch of buzzwords!).

Vodafone does the same in New Zealand. That same page you visited would give you only around 40-50kbps without the compression.

It works fine for http and pop, but not for VPNs.

Posted by Paul O-Brien on 07.11.03 - 22:36:24

I LOVE this phone!

Jabra BT200 works a treat (and answers and ends calls), I have dialled from my iPaq 1945 no problem, and Bluetooth Activesynced.

Phone is super fast, and even the Orange app locking is far more sensible now.

I am holding an online E200 Q&A on Monday evening (check out the news section of http://smartphone.modaco.com for details), feel free to drop by!

P

Posted by Steve J on 08.11.03 - 00:20:36

Hey Paul - please can you tell me if the SPV e200 from orange comes Network locked? I want to use in US with ATTWS SIM

Thanks ~ Steve J

Posted by Jacek on 08.11.03 - 01:08:00

E200 aka i-mate smartphone2 aka QTek 8080 aka O2 Xphone...

...

..

... ROCKS.

Posted by Robin on 21.11.03 - 13:56:52

Sucks that you cant send files over bluetooth sad

Can recieve them fine and no problems with paiting but sending anthing is another story hmm

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