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O2 XDA: Available without any SIM Lock in Hong Kong
Posted by Arne Hess - on Monday, 15.07.02 - 14:36:00 CET under 02 - Windows Mobile News - Viewed 7320x
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Good news for all you gadget guys outside the O2 countries UK, Germany, Netherlands and Ireland. If you are really looking for a O2 xda and want one to buy - without SIM Lock, you can get it in Hong Kong SAR! :-)
Okay, I don't know if it is really a good deal for everybody since Hong Kong is pretty far away from Europe but at least you have the chance to get one there.

Thanks to Wai-Shan for the following information:

"The XDA I bought is NOT SIM-locked. I can freely choose any carrier/provider I wish. I simply took my SIM from my Nokia and stick it in. Worked like a charm. The "standard price for the XDA in HK is HKD5880 (€ 760,24 / US$ 753.89)."

So go and buy your Cathay Pacific ticket and visit the "City of Life". At least I'm in Hong Kong once or twice a year (since I was living in Hong Kong in 1995) and I'm planning to go there in autumn again, anyone want one? ;-)

Cheers ~ Arne

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Posted by Giuseppe on 15.07.02 - 00:00:00

Can you bring one with you for me.? ;-)
I live in Italy and don't know how to get one otherwise. :-(
And yes, I want one!!! :'-(

Ciao Giuseppe

Posted by Anonymous on 16.07.02 - 00:00:00

Dear all,

I am from HKSAR, I got my xda for 5,600 in wai chai computer center, you can go the computer
center by MTR ( WanChai Station ).

I have a question, can I use the serial sync
cable from compaq to xda too, since the serial
sync cable seem not yet available on the market.

Posted by Ronny Gydar on 16.07.02 - 00:00:00


I want one TOO!!!! smile

...but unless I can order direct (or through Arne;), I guess I'm out of luck...a bit too long drive from Norway! smile


Posted by alf on 16.07.02 - 00:00:00

Does anybidy know how to make the XDA accept other non-O2 sim cards. There must be a hack avaliable.

Would appreciate any help you can give on this. I think the XDA is a great device and whilst I would move to O2 to have it, cant do that right now due to contractual obligations with the current providor.

Posted by Arne Hess on 16.07.02 - 00:00:00

@alf: Please don't ask here for any hackz for the O2 xda and respect the rules of PPCW.Net. Otherwise I have to disable the anonymous commenting functionality, which I don't like to do :-(
You can get an unlock code from O2 by paying 150,00 €. Than it's enabled to all network SIM cards!

Posted by mr on 16.07.02 - 00:00:00

serial cradle:
you can't use an IPAQ cradle.
maybe someone will find out how to make an adapter but I did not hear anything so far.


Posted by alf on 17.07.02 - 00:00:00

Sorry Arne, Apologies. Having paid 700 Euros. Wasnt keen to pay anymore. Besides the O2 people I spoke to seem insistent that this could not be done. I only posted on this board out of desperation. Since the XDA now sits in my drawer largely useless as a phone.

If anyone has the number for the Bury Call Centre would appreciate it.



Posted by fabio on 17.07.02 - 00:00:00

if you want buy the xda you can try on
with the smart search.
I have bought it on an ebay auction  from hong kong seller without any sim lock.

good luck!!!!

Posted by Alf on 18.07.02 - 00:00:00

Just had a very painful donverstaion with O2. The information varies depending on who you talk to.

Would appreciate any help anybody could give me on this. I'm very fustrated. I am an O2 customer, but when I travel I swap my SIM for a local network. This is because my local contacts don't like calling international to talk to me if I am already in the same city. Have being doing this for years (Esp in Hong Kong). O2 have never locked there devices until now and its caught me completly by surprise. Feel pretty gutted.

They have refused to unlock point blank. Please help!

Posted by deepak pawar on 22.07.02 - 00:00:00

hey chief...
I bought a O2 XDA in Uk with the help of my friend.I also picked up a o2 roaming card to show the product first in india.Bad news was that O2 roaming doesnt let me use gprs facility provided by our local service provider.
I checked with the O2 for sim unlock and was ready to pay but they said no.
Some one has told me today that O2 comes onlocked in honkong and i sent someone shopping there too but he couldn find a shop.I dont mind paying a little more but need a unlocked devise or need the code to unlock the one i have lying without always online status.Please

Posted by Alf on 22.07.02 - 00:00:00

Is it legal to lock the device in this way? I'm wondering because the contractual obligations exist whether or not a device is locked or unlocked.

The competition authorities are already looking at the roaming charges mmO2 and others charge. Locking devices in this way os a key part of that. It does sound very anti-competitive to do so. Will explore this option through some legal friends who have som expertise in this area. I wonder if O2 can be pressured in this way. If anybody is interested in the knowing the outcome then send me an email. I will post a response as and when..

Apologies for my very very bAD tYPing.

Posted by Alf on 23.07.02 - 00:00:00

Here's the feedback..

This applies to UK residents only. But will hopefully be a pointer in whatever jurisdiction you reside or work.

- The fact that the device cannot use GPRS outside the UK unless it is unocked may constitute an action under "not fot for purpose". The advice is to either, or both, contact your local trading standards office or alternatively contact OFTEL and ask them to push O2 to rectify this situation.

Whilst rules allow devices to be SIM locked, this should only be for 12 months or when the subsidy on the device has been paid, whichever is the sooner. However the "fit for purpose" concept over rides this. The fact that GPRS can only be used internationally using a local SIM is reason enough to have the device unlocked. This does not excuse your contractual obligations to O2 that must be met irrespective of the lock status of your device.

If enough people contact OFTEL, this may allow O2 to change its policy on this matter. Its useful to note that O2 have not, to my knowledge, locked their devices previously even though I have been with them for a number of years and have had a number of devices from them.

Posted by Tsang on 31.07.02 - 00:00:00

Hi everyone, I live in HK and would like to offer my help for a nominal fee to get you the unlocked O2. The quoting price in shops today are around $5700-5880 (US740). I've seen some ebayer from HK selling for US1000+ and that is a bit steep. So if anyone is interested, just give me an email and we might be able to work something out. Thx~~

Posted by Tsang on 31.07.02 - 00:00:00

BTW, my email is or contact me through icq:449326

Posted by Tsang on 02.08.02 - 00:00:00

Not true, you can just buy the phone alone (without the need to pack with a specific network provider) from some of the electronics shop in HK (Fortress or Broadway for example), it don't have signs that said "GPRS works only with XXX network". So I am sure that the O2 in HK doesn't have any sort of locks, not sim lock nor GPRS lock (if there is such a thing).

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