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OFF-TOPIC: Going for a new Camera - but which one?
Posted by Arne Hess - on Wednesday, 02.10.02 - 15:36:00 CET under 06 - Site News - Viewed 8600x
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Last week we had the photokina, the world's leading trade fair for the photographic and imaging sector and a meeting place for professional photographers and photography enthusiasts from all over the world here in Germany and some pretty interesting digital cameras was announced. Because I have to make a lot of pictures for PPCW.Net, mostly in the Macro distance and also I want to improve the picture quality in general, I've decided to go for a new camera.
Some requirements are more than 2 megapixles, CF card for picture storing, short videos would be nice too... And for sure a "brilliant" optical zoom (not this digital stuff only) plus a good Macro for detailed hardware pictures.

So I've decided to give this two models a closer look: the brand new Canon PowerShot G3 and maybe the Nikon COOLPIX 5000.

The PowerShot G3 is a combination of high image quality, incredible performance and superior features to satisfy the needs of the most demanding professional or advanced amateur photographer.

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That's what the COOLPIX 5000 offers the advanced amateur, semi-professional and others for whom quality is paramount.
The camera boasts a superhigh-precision Zoom-Nikkor lens which features three glass-moulded aspherical lens elements, including a large-diameter element up front. As a result, distortion, chromatic aberration and colour blur have all been reduced to negligible levels. When combined with the camera's 5.0 effective megapixels, the results are clear: sharp, high-resolution images with brilliant colour.

Nikon COOLPIX 5000

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I wonder if anyone of you here have any experiences with the one or the other model? I've saw the Coolpix 5000 on weekend and it seems to be pretty good. However, I would like to see it compared to the PowerShot and also the prices are a real question. The Nikon is available for something around 1200 Euro while the Canon was announced for something around 1000 Euro.

Any thoughts here?

Cheers ~ Arne


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Posted by C.H. Teo on 03.10.02 - 00:00:00

both of them has their own pros and cons and targets prosumer market, but all in all, most nikon cameras (even digital) are able to churn out better colour quality compared to nikon.

i've always preferred nikon for its compactness and feature and it's well-known for it's macro capbility too.

maybe you want to check out if you haven't done so smile

Posted by Adamz on 03.10.02 - 00:00:00

Yeah, is a great site!  I have the CoolPix 5000 and use it alot.  It's not a great point-and-shoot camera, but it has alot of great manual controls.  The lens is quite slow though.  The PowerShot G3 was out of the question for me since it just looks cheap.. even though I know it does have alot of great quality features.  You might also look at the Nikon CP 5700.  It's a step up from the 5000 and has a much more powerful optical zoom, not to mention REAL quality Nikon glass in the lenses, which the previous CoolPix models did not have.  On the other hand, the CP5700 has a smaller flip out screen, and it's much less pocketable than the 5000.  The Nikon CoolPix cameras do have excellent Macro capabilities though!

Posted by Anonymous on 03.10.02 - 00:00:00

If I remember right from the WDA review Arne, a guy called 'Schwarzi' blamed you for the picture quality and told you to help you on getting a new camera. I think he mentioned the Coolpix - right? So any help from him there? /Nick

Posted by ppcsurfr on 03.10.02 - 00:00:00

I'll go for the Coolpix 5000.

Here are the good points.

1. you can get the vertical grip that will allow you to use 6 AA sized Ni-Mh or Alkaline batteries.

2. use lens attachments from fisheye, 19mm equiv., 2x converter, 3x converter, and slide copier.

3. fairly good shutter lag... nearing that of a basic SLR camera.

4. F5, F-100, F-80 style controls, 5 point focusing etc.

If you decide on the slightly pricier Coolpix 5700, it adds RAW TIFF to its recording format.  I don't like the zoom range though of 35mm-280mm equiv.

Posted by Arne Hess on 04.10.02 - 00:00:00

Wow, thanks a lot guys for your great input!
I have to sleep about what to choose finally but all your information and links helped a lot!

@Anonymous: Yes you are right with Schwartzi but he never came back to me... :-(
@C.H. Teo : Thanks for the link! Haven't seen it before but gave me some good information too! Great site...

If anyone else has any additional input, everything is highly welcome!

Cheers and thanks again ~ Arne

Posted by Adamz on 04.10.02 - 00:00:00

ppcsurfr> The Coolpix 5000 DOES have RAW file format support if you get the 1.7 Firmware upgrade!  This new firmware actually adds alot of features including support for Nikon Capture PTP and mass storage.  So you can use the CP5000 through the USB cable (with extra software).. controlling it from a laptop/desktop computer, and letting the images save directly to the hard disk through the USB.  The CP5700 has this as well.  The v1.7 Firmware adds alot of the CP5700 features to the CP5000, including a quick response shutter release, better autofocus, more monitor display options (have it only turn on for review, or keep it off), and you can shut off the internal flash completely!  I've got the 19mm lens, and it's excellent!

Posted by Arne Hess on 05.10.02 - 00:00:00

As you seem to know the digital cameras well, specially the Coolpix 5000, I wonder if you can help me on this question:
Does anyone of you know if the Coolpix would also support the Macro Flash like the Canon does:

I've found the same Macro Flashes on the Nikon site

but without any explanation which models/lenses are supported. I think this kind of flash would be a great enhancement for detailed macro pictures. Any thoughts here?
Thanks and cheers ~ Arne

Posted by Adamz on 05.10.02 - 00:00:00

Yeah, I noticed there wasn't a native macro flash attachment for the CP5000 too.  The CP5000 has a 46mm thread.  There's an adapter ring that brings that thread away from the telescoping lens so that you can use the 19mm lens attachment with the zoom.  If there's a ring adapter from 46mm to whatever is on that macro flash, then that would work.  There's also a ring adapter from 46mm to 28mm so you can use older CoolPix accessories. 

Ah, look on this page for the Nikon 5000:
  - There's a 46mm to 52mm ring adapter.  And a 52mm thread is the same as a few of those Micro-Nikkor lenses, meaning the Macro flash should be able to attach to a 52mm thread (though it doesn't seem to say anywhere). 
    If worse comes to worst, you just hold it in front of the lens with your hand, while the rest of it is attached to the hotshoe.  smile 
    If you're worried about it working with the Flash hotshoe on the CP5000, I'm sure it will.  I have some older Nikon Speedlights, and they work great with the CP5000.  However, the CP5000 does not support through the lense (TTL) flash exposures.  And it also does not support the autofocus assist lamp, which projects red lines onto the subject in low-light conditions in order to help the camera focus.  So this means you might have to resort to some manual tweaking to get proper exposures.  But I think I said before, the CP5000 is not a great fully-automatic camera.

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