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SHOWCASE: Samsung shows the SGH-i620 and SGH-i780 Windows Mobile Smartphones at the CES
Posted by Arne Hess - on Monday, 07.01.08 - 13:55:05 CET under 01 - General News - Viewed 18153x
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Not really new anymore and surprisingly on stage in the U.S., Samsung shows its latest Windows Mobile smartphones at the 2008 International Consumer Electronics Show. These handsets made their U.S. debut at the show and exemplify cutting-edge technology and design innovation, including the Samsung SGH-i620 Windows Mobile 6 Standard smartphone and the Samsung SGH-i780 Windows Mobile 6 Professional smartphones.
While both smartphones are great Windows Mobile 6 devices, both features triband GSM/GPRS/EDGE at 900/1800/1900 MHz and singleband UMTS/HSDPA at 2100 MHz only which means it supports one of two U.S. GSM bands only and no UMTS/HSDPA bands.

The Samsung SGH-i620 features a vertical slide design that reveals a full QWERTY keyboard. The i620 is a Windows Mobile 6.0 smart device that offers podcasting, RSS reader capabilities, music player and 2 megapixel camera.

The Samsung SGH-i780 (see our earlier exclusive coverage including photos and videos here) is a sleek smart device featuring a full QWERTY keyboard and full touch screen. The Windows Mobile 6.0 device features push E-Mail, GPS capabilities, an optical mouse, 2 megapixel camera and HSDPA technology.

Since both devices lacks serious support for U.S. GSM and UMTS networks, don't expect a release in the U.S. too soon.

Cheers ~ Arne


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Posted by Andrew on 14.01.08 - 17:13:12

This close to the perfect maschine I believe...except...with freeing up the land scape with a hide qwerty...they should of used a bigger screen...that would be my only issue....this is how I felt Palm should of changed the treo to a full screen with a slide up qwerty keyboard

Posted by Ovie on 15.01.08 - 15:43:41

Andrew wrote:

This close to the perfect maschine I believe...except...with freeing up the land scape with a hide qwerty...they should of used a bigger screen...that would be my only issue....this is how I felt Palm should of changed the treo to a full screen with a slide up qwerty keyboard

True, however, if they had a slide-out keyboard the device would be much thicker..I think a key point to the device is the size. It actually looks quite nice and is reasonably small, whereas the Kaiser is pretty big relative to normal mobile phones.

Posted by J273 on 18.01.08 - 23:13:07

Ive been waiting for the i780 phone since first seen back last year and looks perfect ,After doing a little google search i found the great reviw on here.

One thing i am still confused about is the A-GPS....Is this the A-GPS that was specced in the Kaiser?

Also for this to work in the sammy would i need a constant data connection?...Making it unusable for an app like tomtom....only like google maps where your in a stationary position?

Would i be able to use another navigation app on the it tomtom / iGO /.etc .etc and would it work?

If so this is going to be the perfect device...An im hearing a feb release in europe which is not too far to wait now.


Posted by Arne Hess on 19.01.08 - 19:01:32

No, I explained it in some comments before. The A is just the "assisted" part of GPS, in this case you can also call it "additional" part of GPS. The prototype I had worked fine without an Internet connection, but first time to fix took a little bit longer.
Don't worry, the i780 is expected to work with navigation software like TomTom or iGo. However, I've tested it with iGo and iGo had serious problems with the uncommon screen resolution.

Posted by J273 on 19.01.08 - 23:40:04

Ahhh great...thats good to know...Thanks

Hopefully it will be ok with tomtom....Ive tried Tomtom on a few different PPC resolutions and it was ok including the treo 750v's 240x240...So hopefully it will be ok on the 320x320

Then again maybe not..time will tell.

Posted by J273 on 20.01.08 - 14:09:19

Ive just been reading the official specs on the samsung site ...and it doesant mention any GPS  :x

Do you think they would take this feature out this far into the release?


Posted by Arne Hess on 20.01.08 - 18:16:40

It's at least mentioned on the front page:

Let the i780 guide you. Literally. Integrated GPS combines Garmin's handy location-based services with Google Maps. Assisted GPS software for Orange (Webraska) users consumes less handset power, eliminates interference and boosts accuracy.

So it should be there, even if not mentioned in the specs...

Posted by J273 on 20.01.08 - 19:22:50

Sorry missed that

Hopefully it will be in the final build big_smile

Posted by Jamie on 27.01.08 - 17:19:17

Ive heard today from someone whos has this handset that the internal GPS is locked on this device meaning its only possible to run the included app and no 3rd party app.

Hopefully thats not the case with the retail unit.

Posted by Jamie on 30.01.08 - 00:54:19

Sorry me again smile

Ive just watched the gps video of the i780 and see you mentioned you tried igo

Can you tell me what the performance was like with the handset?

Did it achieve sattelite lock in a reasonable time with a-gps activated?....also did it maintaine satellite lock throughout?

I ask as ive heard it uses a qualcomm 6260 chip which is not meant to be too good.

Any info would be much appreciated....thanks

Posted by C8 on 30.01.08 - 22:54:14

where did you saw the Video of the GPS working ?

Can you please tell us the link

Thank You.

Posted by Arne Hess on 31.01.08 - 09:03:30

@Jamie: I wouldn't vote about the device performance yet, not with the pre-production unit I had for this preview. FTTF worked not to bad but it was assisted anyway.
Also, as you might have seen in the video, i-Go had problems with the 320 x 320 resolution so it's hard to say yet, how the performance of i-Go might be.
Again, the device I got my hands on was a very early pre-production test sample and the performance of the final build might be different.

@C8: The video is here … ctionality and here … ouchscreen you can find more i780 videos here

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