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TEST: How much bandwidth consumes MSN Messenger through GPRS?
Posted by Arne Hess - on Sunday, 19.05.02 - 18:48:00 CET under 09 - Thoughts - Viewed 24242x
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Always on - always nice - always expensive? How much traffic generates the MSN Messenger on the Pocket PC via GPRS?
I've tested it today and connected my Pocket PC with my GPRS network. For the Messenger account I've used an test-account which I have but isn't included in any buddy-lists. So I prevented to get any status messages of logged-in buddies but just the plain MSN Messenger Service connectivity.

For the traffic monitor I've used PDAwin's Network Monitor which gave me a good overview of the up- and downloads and here are the results:

MSN Messenger through GPRS needs near no bandwidth. Messenger only send and received a kind of Ping every 3 to 5 minutes:

Even the fresh login to Messenger, right after the Pocket PC connected to the GPRS network was not countable for the Network Monitor:

The only deflection I've noticed was when I've sent "1234567890" ten times in a row to the Pocket PC but even this wasn't really countable on the Pocket PC:

After more than 4 hours of connection I had 0.01 MB of received data on my counter only:

This shows you that you can use MSN Messenger on your Pocket PC also through GPRS and use it as a kind of least-line access. This is also confirmed by my monthly bills. I've used MSN Messenger in the past quite often for more than 4 hours and didn't recognize any deflections on my bills.

That's pretty cool, the only question I have now is which Pocket PC can run several hours, connected to a GPRS network?

Cheers ~ Arne


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Posted by Edmund Sackbauer on 20.05.02 - 00:00:00

Hi, It would be nive to have a comparison with ICQ messenger as well.
Regards, Mundl

Posted by Charles Pickrell on 20.05.02 - 00:00:00

Thanks Arne, I have been preparing to get a GPRS phone and I was curious about the Messenger bandwidth usage as my plan will bill by the megabyte and not by the minute. I wonder how much it would increase with a fully populated contact list.

Posted by Arne Hess on 20.05.02 - 00:00:00

@Charles: Same here! :-( I also have to pay for my traffic per 10 KBit and since I'm using Messenger regular on my Pocket PC I wanted to know now how much traffic is going through it...
It's fantastic (even if it makes me wonder but I double checked it). How does it looks with a huge buddy list is a good question... Maybe I will try it this week too... Shouldn't be so expensive (crossing the fingers... ;-).

Posted by PP MAryl on 20.05.02 - 00:00:00

Arne, Thanks for these tests, there are really useful for us ... future new GPRS users smile

Posted by David Andrews on 20.05.02 - 00:00:00

Arne,  Your article on MSN Messenger is great!

Related Question: I want to do the same thing with SMS:

I've been trying to set up SMS on my iPAQ running
PocketPC 2002.  I've got GPRS working for PIE
and WAP, but can't get SMS to work. Do you have
a recommended Tool  (Software?) and a Step-by-Step.  I'm using a  Motorola P280 connected via
Serial cable to VOICESTREAM's  iSTREAM (GSM / GPRS)

Best Regards

Posted by Arne Hess on 21.05.02 - 00:00:00

@David: There are several SMS progs out there which you have to use. By default the Pocket PC doesn't support SMS and you need a 3rd party application.
Personally I like to use SimpleSMS or Derdack's Message Master
For further questions, please use the Support Forum at
Cheers ~ Arne

Posted by Anonymous on 27.05.02 - 00:00:00

I use Monkey Messenger - simple + works

Ipaq 3870, T39 via bluetooth

Posted by Ivan Chang on 19.11.04 - 08:47:28

I use Asus MyPal 716 to connect to my SonyEricsson T610 via bluetooth to access Internet with GPRS. i  can surf web pages. However, all IM (such as MSN Messenger) cannot login. Can anyone help me?

Posted by android on 15.04.05 - 17:29:46

My mobile operator charges 0,0875 Eur/min for voice and 0,417 Eur/MByte
for data.
I wonder if it would be worth using MSN instead of voice.

Here's what the official FAQ says about this:
Q. How much bandwidth does Windows Messenger communications require?
A. On dialup connections, the upstream bit rate will be sampled and the
audio sample size adjusted to adapt to use either 11 Kbps or 21 Kbps
depending upon the bandwidth available. For LAN connections, 32 Kbps is
used for audio. The target bit rate for video is 120Kbps but this can
change depending upon the amount of movement, lighting, and other
conditions. On dialup links, the frame rate of the camera and other
factors will be adjusted so that audio and video together occupy 80
percent of the upstream bandwidth available.

Posted by peebee on 27.04.05 - 12:02:04

I am not using the MSN on the road that much. When I was using it, I was getting disconnects (Using it over bluetooth with my mobile). That frustrated me a lot an I decided to rather be offline than let it get to me.

Posted by raja on 15.06.05 - 12:10:48

I am using i-mate JAM and over GPRS i have been trying to use MSN messenger, but it never connects .

I have updated the mesenger with the patch from Microsoft and my JAM in on WM2003 SE.

Any help is appreciated.


Posted by Arne Hess on 15.06.05 - 20:15:50

Sorry but which "patch" do you have installed? The MSN Messenger doesn't needs a patch, it works straight out of the ROM. Sounds like this could be the problem? Do you have the link for the patch?
I'm using the MSN Messenger since December last year without problems - with my i-mate JAM.

Posted by terry on 15.08.05 - 17:38:55

hi anne.i actually have the same problem as raja.i didnt install any patch,but i cant connect to msn on my jam,i can just browse pages.note that i have wap over gprs,not gprs connection.could that be the reason?(kindly reply by mail).thank you

Posted by jord on 06.11.05 - 22:01:03

do you have to pay for msn on a motorola mpx200

Posted by Arne Hess on 06.11.05 - 23:28:05

What do you mean with pay for? Pay for the GPRS traffic or application on the device?

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