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VIDEOVIEW: Hands-on with the O2 Xda diamond pro Windows Mobile Smartphone
Posted by Arne Hess - on Friday, 27.06.08 - 15:09:04 CET under 08 - Reviews - Viewed 32540x
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In addition to the previous Photoview, I also had the chance to play some extra minutes with O2 Germany's Xda diamond pro, aka the HTC Touch Pro, to record a first hands-on Videoview of O2's (and HTC's) latest Windows Mobile smartphone. As you can see in the video, the footprint of the device is really small - quite similar to the HTC Touch Diamond. However, the Pro is nearly double as thick as the Touch Diamond. But the full-size QWERTZ(Y) keyboard is quite good, even if you think that the device is so small. On the backside you have the same 3.2 Megapixel autofocus camera as used for the Touch Diamond but this time it gets a LED photo-light supported:

Please note that I don't have a device yet and I only spent a short time with O2's sample

Cheers ~ Arne


 
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Posted by SAP on 27.06.08 - 20:00:47

How bulky does it feel compared to the Diamond?
How bulky does it feel as a phone? Some phones from two years ago (before the super slims started) had the same thickness... a problem?

Still a good to-go-phone?

Posted by SAP on 27.06.08 - 20:04:10

...and: When will it be on sale???

Posted by surur on 27.06.08 - 21:07:21

Does it have an accelerometer?

Surur

Posted by Arne Hess on 27.06.08 - 21:32:26

@SAP: In the hand it feels brilliant, but for me personally - as a phone - it's to thick. It should be released later this summer. Expect a launch in late September/early October.

@surur: Yes, same as in the HTC Touch Diamond.

Posted by Marc75 on 28.06.08 - 05:19:33

Thanks for the video Arne - looks a bit laggy in terms of performance. Is this due to the unit being pre-production?

Posted by SAP on 28.06.08 - 06:42:40

@Arne: To me it appears to be quite a good compromise between PDA and Phone. And it seems to be the slimmes of its kind though...

Would you rather go with the PRO or the Diamond? Or none?

Posted by BrianM on 28.06.08 - 16:47:17

Interesting, the notes app did not launch with the stylus extraction.  That seemed to be one of the nicer touches on the Diamond.

Posted by Surur on 28.06.08 - 18:45:09

BrianM wrote:

Interesting, the notes app did not launch with the stylus extraction.  That seemed to be one of the nicer touches on the Diamond.

It only does that when you are on a phone call, otherwise it just wakes the device from suspend, which it did do in this video.

Surur

Posted by Adam Z Lein on 29.06.08 - 21:10:47

Can you navigate the operating system using the keyboard and without using the touch screen or stylus as you can with the Kaiser, Mogul, Hermes, Wizard, Treo, etc? 
Can you use the keyboard to search programs in the programs launching panel, for example typing "G" jumps to Google Maps.
Are there keyboard mnemonics for menus that allow you to instantly activate menu commands without scrolling or touching the screen? 
Can you use the keyboard to instantly jump to specific panels of the TouchFLO 3D interface?

Posted by Arne Hess on 01.07.08 - 12:41:57

Thanks to O2 Germany, again I got my hands on an O2 Xda diamond pro/HTC Touch Pro to answer your questions:

Adam Z Lein wrote:

Can you navigate the operating system using the keyboard and without using the touch screen or stylus as you can with the Kaiser, Mogul, Hermes, Wizard, Treo, etc?

Yes, you can but keep in mind that there is neither a "Start" nor a "Ok" key available. So you have to touch the screen if you want to open the Start menu. However, after you can use the cursor and Enter keys to navigate through the menus.

Can you use the keyboard to search programs in the programs launching panel, for example typing "G" jumps to Google Maps.

At the moment, there the Programs panel isn't available in landscape mode.

Are there keyboard mnemonics for menus that allow you to instantly activate menu commands without scrolling or touching the screen?

Not that I'm aware of it.

Can you use the keyboard to instantly jump to specific panels of the TouchFLO 3D interface?

No, HTC provides a special landscape TouchFLO 3D layout with shortcuts only (see this photo) which is different to the portrait TouchFLO 3D.

Posted by skyline GT R-35 on 01.07.08 - 21:48:17

Gentleman, I would like to understand the A-GPS option of this phone. Please, help me with this. If I know, the A-GPS is a higher version of the classic GPS. Big advantages of this verion are that it helps me by the cold start of GPS (I can get much faster my position) and of course when the gps signal is lost. In this case I can get another signal or info from the "operator", but this info is a GPRS signal, which costs money. But what about this: I don´t need all the time this GPRS info - I can wait few minutes by the cold start for my actual position and I don´t need every time the "assisted" support of the GPS by traveling on places, where aren´t higher buildings to block the GPS signal. My question is: Is it possible to turn this "assisted" option off in the phone??? What else can I do as a phone user to set this option off\on???

Posted by Adam Z Lein on 03.07.08 - 22:51:58

Thanks so much for answering my questions!
Keyboard mnemonics are when you open a menu, each item has an underlined letter, and if you press the corresponding letter on the keyboard, it activates that menu command.  This saves a huge amount of time fiddling with the directional buttons or touch screen.

Can you reassign the SMS and Inbox keys on the keyboard to something more useful like the Start Menu or OK buttons? 

That's too bad about not having programs in Landscape mode yet.  I really hope the auto-search feature is implemented for programs as it is for Contacts, email messages, and the Windows Media library.

Posted by Kinara on 26.07.08 - 02:43:29

Arne,

I just stumbled upon this site, I have a couple of questions...

1. Does it have the accelerometer? and how well does it work?
2. Does the back cover not Diamond Cut Shape? -- because in the pictures on www.htc.com it shows the Pro's back cover as Diamond Cut.
3. According to the HTC site (http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx?id=49524) it is supposed to have 288MB of RAM. In your Video I think I saw 256MB?
4. Does the TouchFlo work in applications like Outlook? / MS Word?


Thanx smile

Kinara

Posted by Arne Hess on 26.07.08 - 08:45:56

@Kinara: 1. Yes, like the Touch Diamond, the Touch Pro has the accelerometer as well. It works well but to unlock the full potential, you need a 3rd party software called GSEN.
2. In the video above I was showing O2's Touch Pro version and as with the HTC Touch Diamond, O2 decided to use a flat battery cover. The HTC version will have the diamond shape.
3. Don't take the RAM/ROM in the video too serious, it was an early prototype.
4. What do you mean with working in other applications? You mean TouchFLO finger scrolling? Yes, this works with every inbuilt application and with most (but nor all) 3rd party applications.

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